[MS] DOT #1531 - The operating cost for the research organization Polkadot Ecology Research Institute for 2025/4-2026/3
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https://polkadot.subsquare.io/referenda/1531

  • The Polkadot Ecology Research Institute is a big research group in Asia about the Polkadot community.
  • They have been working on Polkadot for more than 6 years and have helped many projects and events.
  • The team has written nearly 300 pieces about Polkadot and has reached over 63 million readers.
  • They support projects in the Polkadot ecosystem, even outside China, often for free.
  • Their Twitter account has grown a lot, with over 4,700 followers this year.
  • They recently shared a big report about Polkadot's future that got a lot of attention.
  • They are asking for money to help pay for their operations and work for another year.
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#1
2mo ago

66% abstinence, higher than the 50% threshold.
Vote #1: ABSTAIN
Voting Members: 9
No CoI reported. DV delegation exercised.
https://polkadot.subscan.io/extrinsic/25812630-2
https://polkadot.subsquare.io/referenda/1531#7

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Votes·10

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167Y...TY9F
167YoKNriVtP4Nxk9F9GRV7HTKu5VnxaRq1pKMANAnmmTY9F
Abstain
Abstain
Hard to gauge the success of all the promotions from past years.
12Hi...E9N3
12Hi...E9N3
12His7t3EJ38tjdBbivUzWQeaNCLKfMqtKp1Ed3xHMyCE9N3
Abstain
Abstain
My second vote on this is Abstain after the response from PERI team, please see the discussion below for my comments on Polkadot's strategy for growth in China.
1ZSP...vx6w
1ZSP...vx6w
1ZSPR3zNg5Po3obkhXTPR95DepNBzBZ3CyomHXGHK9Uvx6w
Abstain
Abstain
"Right now, more high-quality projects and ecosystems have emerged in the Crypto field. Polkadot needs more builders to join, and it also requires institutions like us to help more people truly understand the value of Polkadot and participate in the construction of the Polkadot ecosystem. This is exactly what we have been persevering in doing for over the past six years, and we will continue to do so as always in the future." Generally supportive due to the length of service and support from local teams, but I would like to see the goals and impact of the group be measured in tangible results, such as the number of builders entering and staying in the ecosystem, rather than be measured in the volume of content produced. An investment into this group is an investment into the Chinese market, but if the conversion into local builders is not happening, it begs a difficult question of whether or not the timing is right for this, or if other activities should be funded first.
14Gn...YLEh
14Gn...YLEh
14Gn7SEmCgMX7Ukuppnw5TRjA7pao2HFpuJo39frB42tYLEh
Abstain
Abstain
I understand the importance of the Chinese community in Polkadot and I also recognize the good work that Polkadot Ecology Research has been doing in the ecosystem, however, I would like to be able to understand more about what was achieved, to be clear about what was accomplished through all their actions.
12s6...nE8h
12s6...nE8h
12s6UMSSfE2bNxtYrJc6eeuZ7UxQnRpUzaAh1gPQrGNFnE8h
Nay
Nay
We don't think it's a good idea to pay upfront for 12 months, even considering the long-term commitment of the team. If the team finds a more suitable solution for the treasury than a 100% upfront payment, we can reconsider our vote. For now, it's a nay.
12Kt...DCoJ
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12KtA8mtfsK1CyQb4utLiwG3ao22z77w2cM2GqnaL2RiDCoJ
Nay
Nay
The current following seems limited in size for as long as they have been operating, and the content mostly consists of recaps or pieces that could potentially be automated. Despite being in their 9th funding round, I’ve seen little visibility or impact from this group, but perhaps it could be a geo thing... regardless, it’s a nay from me for now unless strong, organic community support surfaces in the meantime.
14gM...deVb
14gM...deVb
14gMJV95zwxUsFEZDSC8mtBVifS6SypKJkfBKANkMsLZdeVb
Aye
Aye
I support their work as we can see more content in China market. I have 2 suggestions: first the articles may need more depth to help the growth of polkadot, second they need more work to prove their content has reached enough users and affections to them.
1xzc...1bX6
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1xzcLSwo7xBFkJYZiL4EHaqFpuPTkH641E3V43W4cuk1bX6
Abstain
Abstain
We align with the views of both W1ZSPR3 and EzioRed.
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15fT...yBzL
15fTH34bbKGMUjF1bLmTqxPYgpg481imThwhWcQfCyktyBzL
Abstain
Abstain
I really cannot arrive at a solid conclusion on this proposal. The efforts are visible, but the there are questions effectiveness. I abstain.
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13EDmaUe89xXocPppFmuoAZaCsckaJy3deAyVyiykk1zKQbF
Aye
Aye
It's a difficult market to have any transparency in, but Yongfeng's opinion here goes a long way. Aye from PMEI.

Discussions·7

Polkadot ERI team has published this article, with the claims that it was an in-depth evaluation and well received by the community. While it is lengthy I don't really see a lot of depth in there, I certainly wouldn't call it a research article it's more like an opinion piece if anything. It's mostly a summary of a lot different projects and other events in the blockchain industry with a few sentences about each on how they relate to Polkadot but it's the opposite of in-depth in my opinion so this brings me to question their other work.

Since they've been involved in the community for quite a while but the community growth doesn't seem to be there, could this be the time for introspection of their methods to build a community in the region around Polkadot? They do have an impressive number of articles with a lot of words in them but at the end of the day the objective shouldn't be to produce X amount of articles with Y word count, the metrics I would hope for is community growth and engagement which I fail to see here. Hopefully the team can respond to some of these questions, in the meanwhile my first vote would be NAY.

Dear @The Ionian ,

Thank you for your feedback.

I would like to first ask whether the in-depth report you mentioned requires a large number of charts and data. It's important to note that in-depth reports come in various types. The strategic report we propose focuses more on operational direction adjustments. Its value lies in translating industry experience into an actionable roadmap, rather than pursuing formal depth for its own sake.

As the saying goes, "There are a thousand Hamlets in a thousand people's eyes." Our content has received positive feedback from developers, users, and institutions alike. In fact, this article was recommended to official internal forums and read by many members of the Parity and Web3 Foundation, who spoke highly of it. Therefore, we have full confidence in the report's credibility.
Additionally, the report's core emphasis is on presenting feasible operation strategies—these are insights distilled from years of industry experience, which are not easily quantifiable through data or charts. However, those with practical project operation experience will find our content highly relatable.

Regarding the issue of community growth: as a team that has been building on Polkadot since 2019, we have witnessed many community members holding DOT when its price was above $50, $40, or $30, only to hold through declines to $5, $4, or $3. During this period, many became disheartened and left due to severe losses, while others expressed anger and frustration. Maintaining community retention under such circumstances—while continuously providing confidence—has been no small feat. As a research organization, our primary focus is on producing high-quality content and offering solutions for the ecosystem. We also strive to make Polkadot's complex technical developments accessible to ordinary users through our interpretations, thereby contributing to its growth.

That said, we have also expanded into overseas markets. Our Twitter account has grown significantly over the past year, evolving from a small profile to one with visible traction. The content we produce also garners substantial readership: I personally translate some of our in-depth reports into English and share them on Twitter, where they often attract thousands—sometimes even tens of thousands—of views: https://x.com/Zou_Block/status/1911363611798520160.

In this fiercely competitive landscape of public blockchains, the Polkadot ecosystem needs constructive ideas rather than abstract theoretical debates. The best way to predict the future is to build it. Let us focus on actionable steps together and create tangible breakthroughs for Polkadot during this critical window of 2025.

I want to add some background stories about us.

Our Polkadot Ecology Research Institute is a research institution foucus on the research and analysis of the Polkadot ecosystem development.

The original intention of our establishment can be traced back to 2019. At that time, we learned about Polkadot through Xiaojie from PolkaWorld and Guanghua from ChainX. After studying the Polkadot white paper at that time, we were deeply attracted. And, Dr. Gavin also came to China for the first time in 2019 and organized four events in different cities. We were the co-organizer of one of the cities. This offline meeting further strengthened our belief in Polkadot. Taking this opportunity, we also helped PolkaWorld establish an early Chinese community of Polkadot and provided some Polkadot-related content. At that time, there was very little content about Polkadot in the Chinese community. We also wrote the first in-depth Chinese analysis report on Polkadot, which received a large number of reposts and reads.

In 2020, as Polkadot's technology became more and more mature, we knew that Polkadot's technology was more complex than general technologies, and the Polkadot ecosystem would be a much larger one. Just understanding the progress of Polkadot was not enough for more users and investors to feel its potential. Therefore, in 2020, together with some early participants and investors in the Chinese Polkadot community, relying on years of in-depth involvement in the blockchain industry, we established a professional research and content production team and founded our research institute, focusing on Polkadot research and presenting complex technical content to readers in an easy-to-understand way.

After half a year of working for free, we finally passed the strict treasury review, gained the recognition of the Treasury Councils, and started receiving support from the Polkadot treasury. Up to now, we've received treasury support for eight times. This is our ninth application, which means we're among the first batch of those who got treasury support and we've been getting it continuously until now.

I want to answer the polkadotters' concern.

I have to say: At present, the mainstream application method for the Treasury has always been advance payment, a practice that has been used up to now since the Governance 1.0 era. We have not yet encountered other mature alternatives, but we are more than willing to try new approaches if they emerge.

Additionally, we initially provided high-quality content for free for six consecutive months before gaining official recognition and passing the Treasury Council's review, at which point the advance payment funding model was confirmed. Since then, we have secured Treasury support eight times in a row, each time successfully fulfilling our commitments. If you examine the timeline of our applications, you will notice the duration has gradually increased from one month to three months, six months, and now 12 months. This progression reflects the Council's growing recognition and trust in us, and we were actually guided by Parity's Raul to consider extending the application period.

Therefore, there is currently no better-established mechanism in place, and our delivery capability has been validated eight times over. We would genuinely appreciate understanding what your core concerns are.

Next, I will respond to W1ZSPR3, EzioRed, and Jose_TwoPebbles, as their questions primarily focus on learning more about our tangible outcomes.

Traditional companies can measure results through product sales revenue, but in the Web3 industry—where user participation is voluntary—we can track on-chain activity and new account creations. However, it is challenging to directly attribute user acquisition or retention to our efforts. That said, the growth in our Twitter followers and traffic demonstrates rising user interest in Polkadot.

In the Chinese-speaking region, during Polkadot's peak popularity around 2021, our articles frequently garnered tens of thousands of views on major Chinese blockchain platforms, with some even featured on homepages and banner sections (typically reserved for paid content). While market downturns have reduced attention on the Polkadot ecosystem, a recent article we published on Polkadot's projected 2025 performance achieved over 5,000 views—several times our average—indicating that users are merely dormant, not disengaged. When Polkadot shows signs of growth, they are quick to resonate. For context, official Chinese WeChat articles for SUI averaged only a few hundred views during the same period, yet our third-party content consistently outperforms them by multiples. We are confident that when Polkadot's application ecosystem ignites through Polkadot Hub, we will rally to drive significant traffic and potential users to the network.

Beyond the content volume reported in our development updates, we have undertaken long-term ecosystem-building efforts, including creating educational materials for projects, assisting with fundraising and strategic consulting, supporting developers in applying for Grants/Treasury funds through hackathons, and collecting feedback from retail and institutional users for the official team.

Our most recent strategic development report (Part of this report has been published as a thread on Twitter, which can be viewed here) was even shared on Parity's internal forum, where it was read and highly praised by many Parity and Web3 Foundation members. While these efforts are difficult to quantify, we have compiled some of their testimonials, which you can review in the final section of our application proposal.

Furthermore, from an operational perspective, content operations are a tedious yet essential task that requires consistent effort. It involves not only maintaining user confidence during market downturns but also providing more engagement opportunities during upswings. Critically, many tasks cannot wait for event milestones—content operations often serve as the first movers. For example, when preparing for the official launch of EVM contracts on Polkadot Hub, we need to backtrack from the event timeline to initiate content preheating, guidance, and education weeks in advance, which are vital preparatory steps. After the launch, we must continuously uncover hot topics to amplify momentum. Thus, content operations span the entire project lifecycle. A sudden reduction in this investment would be keenly felt by users, risking perceptions that the Asian market is being abandoned—a major blow to confidence. Conversely, aligning with official timelines to deliver timely content can achieve exponential results.

We believe that with the launch of JAM, Polkadot stands at a new starting point. The Asia-Pacific market is critical to Polkadot's future, as it was even the backbone of Polkadot's early growth (evident in the fact that six of the first ten winning parachain projects had core teams from the Asia-Pacific region). Therefore, Polkadot's future development requires institutions like ours to focus on building within the Asia-Pacific market. To our knowledge, we are the only global institution specializing exclusively in Polkadot ecosystem research—an indispensable role, as nearly all major public chain projects (Ethereum, Solana, etc.) have dedicated research institutions supporting their ecosystems.

Hi, friends of PermanenceDAO!

Thank you for your feedback. I hope that by providing some more information, I can help you better understand our influence and the role we play in the Asia-Pacific region or within the entire Polkadot ecosystem.

As the only institution in the Asia-Pacific region that focuses on the research of the Polkadot ecology, we have enabled everyone to truly understand the value of Polkadot and the advanced nature of technologies such as Substrate and JAM through in-depth content presented in an easy-to-understand way. Most of the people who enter the Polkadot ecosystem through our content are real builders and users who are willing to contribute to the Polkadot ecosystem in the long term, rather than just speculators trading DOT. This is why many developers, project teams, whales, and institutions like our content.

So, what are the effects of this?

Firstly, for Polkadot holders, over the past few years, we have accumulated nearly 800 very core Polkadot users. They hold at least more than 2 million DOTs, and many large holders have held their DOTs for more than 3 years. You can see this from the Aye votes for our Treasury proposal. They directly gave us a Vote Multiplier of 6, and the staking period is more than 200 days. Let me ask , if they didn't have confidence in Polkadot and our work, why would they choose to vote for such a long time? Even now, this is still a value of nearly 10 million dollars. Perhaps this is the best feedback and proof of our content creation over the years. This is only under the premise of the current poor market situation. If it were around 2021, the number of DOTs supporting us might have increased several times.

Secondly, from the perspective of the content itself, we have successfully published an article on the official Medium of Polkadot, and we are also the only Asia-Pacific research institution that has published content on the Polkadot official Medium's Publication. In addition, our content has been recognized by professional institutions such as Scytale Digital, IOSG, and Arkstream Capital. It has also been recognized by figures in the Polkadot ecosystem like ET, the curator of Market Bounty, the Polkadot Reddit and Discord moderator, greenhatter, and the official Spanish account of Polkadot. Moreover, it has received appreciation from some well-known projects in the Polkadot ecosystem such as Bifrost, Phala Network, Astar, Moonbeam, SubWallet, and CESS Network. I think this is the best feedback on the quality of our content.

Thirdly, in terms of data, some time ago, we wrote an article about why we should be optimistic about the development of Polkadot in 2025. This article received more than 5,200 views on the WeChat official account, which is several times the average view count of our regular articles. At the same time, the average view count of the official WeChat account of the Sui Network was only seven or eight hundred. So, we definitely have the ability to trigger the market's attention to Polkadot and boost everyone's confidence when Polkadot is developing well, and accelerate the participation of more users in the Polkadot ecosystem. We were able to achieve this in 2021, and this recent article has once again proven that we are equally capable of doing so now.

In terms of importance, I hope everyone can understand that the Chinese-speaking region is of great significance to any cryptocurrency project. Currently, the Asian region is a key development area for major public blockchains and well-known exchanges because this region will provide them with top-notch developers, users, and liquidity, making it a market they must compete for. After all, according to the spot exchange rankings on CoinmarketCap, 7 out of the top 10 exchanges have a background from the Chinese-speaking region. This shows the importance in terms of real money.

Finally, I'd like to say that we have spent most of the past six years contributing to the development of the Asia-Pacific market. We actually only started to focus on the overseas market and building our influence overseas last year, which has led to overseas users having limited knowledge about us. That's why most of the Nay votes come from the overseas market. In the coming year, we will also devote more efforts to building the overseas market. However, in terms of the Chinese-speaking market, there are so many people supporting us. I hope you can consider this from the perspective of the Chinese market and think about why they are so willing to support us.

I firmly believe that all global Polkadot users should share the same goal, which is to build a better Polkadot. Therefore, I hope you can also support us and the Chinese-speaking market.

And regarding the concern about the upfront payment, I have to say: At present, the mainstream application method for the Treasury has always been upfront payment, a practice that has been used up to now since the Governance 1.0 era. We have not yet encountered other mature alternatives, but we are more than willing to try new approaches if they emerge.

Additionally, we initially provided high-quality content for free for six consecutive months before gaining official recognition and passing the Treasury Council's review, at which point the upfront payment funding model was confirmed. Since then, we have secured Treasury support eight times in a row, each time successfully fulfilling our commitments. If you examine the timeline of our applications, you will notice the duration has gradually increased from one month to three months, six months, and now 12 months. This progression reflects the Council's growing recognition and trust in us, and we were actually guided by Parity's Raul to consider extending the application period.

Therefore, there is currently no better-established mechanism in place, and our delivery capability has been validated eight times over. Therefore, we believe it is appropriate to adopt the same approach as before.

The above is our explanation. We hope that through this information, you can understand the results achieved by our actions and have your doubts clarified. You are also welcome to raise more specific questions at any time in the link to your internal vote. We will pay close attention and actively respond to your questions. Thanks.

Hi, everyone! We have updated a clearer OKR in the proposal overview. We hope you can check it out and conduct a re-evaluation. Thank you. https://polkadot.polkassembly.io/referenda/1531

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Members
11
Timestamp
Created
Apr 18 2025 07:17
Start date
Apr 18 2025 00:00
End date
May 18 2025 00:00
Results
Voters
10
one-person-one-vote
Aye
2 VOTE
 
Nay
2 VOTE
 
Abstain
6 VOTE
 
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