[MS] DOT #1717 - Resubmission: Clarys.AI - OpenGov Data Backbone & Accountability Explorer (Beta v1)

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Description

https://polkadot.subsquare.io/referenda/1717

Clarys.AI is a tool for Polkadot OpenGov that helps people make better decisions. Here are the main points:

It brings together scattered information about proposals.
It shows where ideas come from and if they are repeated.
It helps save time and money for the treasury.
It includes a tool called the Accountability Explorer.
It uses AI to make work faster and easier.
It is open for anyone to use and build upon.
The team is asking for $130,000 to finish the first version.
You can try an early version of the tool now.

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Vote #1: NAY
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https://polkadot.subscan.io/extrinsic/27552964-2
https://polkadot.subsquare.io/referenda/1717#4

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Created

Aug 19 2025 14:35

Start date

Aug 19 2025 00:00

End date

Oct 18 2025 00:00

Votes·8

1ZSP...vx6w

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Abstain

This looks like a good start at a tool that could deliver value soon. I'm wondering to what degree it can and cannot discern duplicates as part of this V1, and what is the magnitude of the problem today?

I like the fact the "core artifacts" are open source - but interested to have more clarity on what aspects of the system or developments are not going to be open source? Both for this proposal and follow-on efforts.

12s6...nE8h

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Aye

We like the idea of using this tool in OpenGov in many ways. We are glad that the proposal has been divided into phases compared to the previous one. We are ready to support it. Let's see how it goes and what it will look like. Aye.

15fT...yBzL

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Nay

The initial version developed under a DF grant is still closed for public access. This unfortunately is not an instance of ecosystem-aligned development. Proposers of software development proposals should embody free software builder principles. And my impression is that a valid first version should be eligible for development for less than the asked amount.

13ED...KQbF

13EDmaUe89xXocPppFmuoAZaCsckaJy3deAyVyiykk1zKQbF

Aye

This will help improve DD process. aye

14gM...deVb

14gMJV95zwxUsFEZDSC8mtBVifS6SypKJkfBKANkMsLZdeVb

Nay

I'm still not confident with the proposed ideas can work.

167Y...TY9F

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Aye

Any help we can get doing the due diligence of OpenGov proposals is welcome, having said this, I dont see any big hurdle into making this a paid for product.

12Hi...E9N3

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Abstain

While I don't like that previous development on the tool isn't opensource, I'll abstain until this is addressed.

14Gn...YLEh

14Gn7SEmCgMX7Ukuppnw5TRjA7pao2HFpuJo39frB42tYLEh

Abstain

I'm not entirely sure that these types of tools really help to improve many things within Polkadot.

Discussions·3

146Z...PJbZ

Hey [@🏔 HELIKON 🏔],

The MVP is now fully open-access, you can test the proof-of-concept here and we’d be glad to hear your feedback.

This updated proposal is structured to fully implement open-source software, and we’ve already reduced the budget compared to the previous ref. 1679 submission.
Out of curiosity, do you have references to comparable AI tool development budgets that you’re basing your argument on? That would help us better understand your perspective.

146Z...PJbZ

Hey @The Ionian ,

Thank you for sharing your perspective. We’d like to clarify that the current vote for this ref 1717 is for the** beta development ** and in the roadmap we’ve made it clear that the beta will be built with open-source tech.

The MVP, on the other hand, was created as a proof of concept to test whether a consolidated dataset and AI could enhance governance user flows. At that stage, open source was not a strict requirement under the W3F DF grants guidelines.

That said, we’ve heard both your concerns and the broader community’s feedback and we are committed to developing the beta version of Clarys.AI with an open source–first approach going forward.

146Z...PJbZ

Hey @EzioRed and @OpenSquare/Yongfeng ,

Thank you for sharing your concerns, I am happy to clarify it for you in detail:
I believe it’s clear by now that AI tools (which many of us already use daily) can significantly increase productivity across almost any use case.

For Polkadot governance, developing a customized AI is not about replacing processes but about optimizing existing manual workflows. In the MVP, we focused on three user stories I personally encountered as a bounty curator:

Comparing proposals between bounty submissions and treasury submissions
Running quick accountability checks
Sourcing off-chain bounty submissions into one UI and comparing them with on-chain treasury submissions

The potential impact is tangible: using Clarys.AI could increase DV and curator efficiency by up to 300%, save over 120,000 hours of work and reduce costs by an estimated $6M in treasury work/time budget savings.

We’d be genuinely interested to hear more on your perspective. What makes you still feel that AI may not bring meaningful optimization to current manual workflows?