[WFC] KSM #558 - Adjusting the submission deposit
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https://kusama.subsquare.io/referenda/558

Following the poll of in this previous discussion, I propose we increase the submission deposit for all referenda to 3.333..KSM as a way to mitigate spam on governance tracks. Additionally I propose the addition of an extrinsic that collects the locked submission deposits transferring them to a designated account like the the treasury or the upcoming black hole.

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Vote #1: NAY
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https://kusama.subscan.io/extrinsic/29283610-2
https://kusama.subsquare.io/referenda/558#7

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14gM...deVb
14gM...deVb
14gMJV95zwxUsFEZDSC8mtBVifS6SypKJkfBKANkMsLZdeVb
Nay
Nay

3.333..KSM is too much considering submission deposit can't be refunded.

1xzc...1bX6
1xzc...1bX6
1xzcLSwo7xBFkJYZiL4EHaqFpuPTkH641E3V43W4cuk1bX6
Aye
Aye

This could be a good step in the right direction to stop spam.

14Gn...YLEh
14Gn...YLEh
14Gn7SEmCgMX7Ukuppnw5TRjA7pao2HFpuJo39frB42tYLEh
Abstain
Abstain

We need to stop SPAM, but, 3.333 KSM is a high amount.

15fT...yBzL
15fT...yBzL
15fTH34bbKGMUjF1bLmTqxPYgpg481imThwhWcQfCyktyBzL
Nay
Nay

I agree with Daniel that the submission deposit should be higher. But it should probably be slightly lower than the Polkadot counterpart, 42 DOT. Maybe 1.5-2.0 KSM range is a good measure.

12Kt...DCoJ
12Kt...DCoJ
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Abstain
Abstain

I don't personally find it that difficult to vote nay on a few spam proposals here and there, but if the spam issue gets more and more annoying than perhaps it makes sense to reconsider. 3.333 KSM is a bit high just to submit a ref.

12s6...nE8h
12s6...nE8h
12s6UMSSfE2bNxtYrJc6eeuZ7UxQnRpUzaAh1gPQrGNFnE8h
Abstain
Abstain

We like the idea, but probably it's too much to just avoid spam.

13zn...P5ju
13zn...P5ju
13znFMMjHyM2UvSewvaKMC2bLUcySRMzcM8BAMTzm1G2P5ju
Abstain
Abstain

[WRONG SUBMISSION - IGNORE]

167Y...TY9F
167Y...TY9F
167YoKNriVtP4Nxk9F9GRV7HTKu5VnxaRq1pKMANAnmmTY9F
Aye
Aye

is it 3.33.

12Hi...E9N3
12Hi...E9N3
12His7t3EJ38tjdBbivUzWQeaNCLKfMqtKp1Ed3xHMyCE9N3
Nay
Nay

I agree that it's a bit high, I think 1.23456789 KSM would be better if we're going for meme numbers.

1ZSP...vx6w
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1ZSPR3zNg5Po3obkhXTPR95DepNBzBZ3CyomHXGHK9Uvx6w
Nay
Nay

I believe it's probably too much at the current time.

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Timestamp
Created
Jul 09 2025 15:28
Start date
Jul 09 2025 00:00
End date
Sep 07 2025 00:00
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